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	<title>Comments on: Thankful I am NOT a Jets Fan this Thanksgiving</title>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/11/22/thankful-i-am-not-a-jets-fan-this-thanksgiving/comment-page-1/#comment-58386</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, most New Yorkers are NOT like this and I take as much offense at Lilacspec&#039;s absurd comment as I do at the outrageous behavior displayed by those cretins (who, by the way, did not tend to live in NYC as implied, but NJ and upstate NY - you know, nice suburban guys, not like those evil men who live in the bad city...).  Harumph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, most New Yorkers are NOT like this and I take as much offense at Lilacspec&#8217;s absurd comment as I do at the outrageous behavior displayed by those cretins (who, by the way, did not tend to live in NYC as implied, but NJ and upstate NY &#8211; you know, nice suburban guys, not like those evil men who live in the bad city&#8230;).  Harumph.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/11/22/thankful-i-am-not-a-jets-fan-this-thanksgiving/comment-page-1/#comment-58382</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, Steve says... I wish I had turned off the italics after the paragraph where I used it. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, Steve says&#8230; I wish I had turned off the italics after the paragraph where I used it. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/11/22/thankful-i-am-not-a-jets-fan-this-thanksgiving/comment-page-1/#comment-58381</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree that their behavior is reprehensible, and I love the idea of the women taking back Gate D.

I would ask, though, that readers not talk about the &lt;i&gt;&quot;&#039;Boys will be Boys&#039; sentiment that STILL PERMEATES OUR CULTURE.&quot;  

It unfortunately is a part of a subculture.  We have many subcultures in this multi-cultural society. Some behave poorly.  But when we talk about it as if this is how &quot;MEN&quot; are, or that &quot;MEN&quot; condone this, then that stereotypes and condemns half our population simply on gender.  It&#039;s not fair when done to women, and it&#039;s not fair when done to men.

But let&#039;s &lt;b&gt;do&lt;/b&gt; go after a subculture of violence that condones this behavior, jokes about it, and perhaps even rewards it.  That includes the female members of the subculture that actually &quot;enjoy&quot; the attention, and participate. (ever heard of the Harley Rallies?&quot;)&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree that their behavior is reprehensible, and I love the idea of the women taking back Gate D.</p>
<p>I would ask, though, that readers not talk about the <i>&#8220;&#8216;Boys will be Boys&#8217; sentiment that STILL PERMEATES OUR CULTURE.&#8221;  </p>
<p>It unfortunately is a part of a subculture.  We have many subcultures in this multi-cultural society. Some behave poorly.  But when we talk about it as if this is how &#8220;MEN&#8221; are, or that &#8220;MEN&#8221; condone this, then that stereotypes and condemns half our population simply on gender.  It&#8217;s not fair when done to women, and it&#8217;s not fair when done to men.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s <b>do</b> go after a subculture of violence that condones this behavior, jokes about it, and perhaps even rewards it.  That includes the female members of the subculture that actually &#8220;enjoy&#8221; the attention, and participate. (ever heard of the Harley Rallies?&#8221;)</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am OUTRAGED about this.  I live in the Midwest, but may have to visit with some other women friends during a Jets game.  I would love to lure one of these &quot;boys&quot; away from the mob and depants them in cold weather so they could freeze their stuff off.  See how funny they think that is!!!

Or maybe get a large group of women together and protest outside the game and get someone to film it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am OUTRAGED about this.  I live in the Midwest, but may have to visit with some other women friends during a Jets game.  I would love to lure one of these &#8220;boys&#8221; away from the mob and depants them in cold weather so they could freeze their stuff off.  See how funny they think that is!!!</p>
<p>Or maybe get a large group of women together and protest outside the game and get someone to film it.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There must be something in the air. Even in little ol&#039; Wisconsin today, I was made to feel exactly the same way: basically, that women have no business being alone in public, or the big bad men will get them and take them away. WTF?? I can&#039;t imagine anything more damaging than the fucking &quot;Boys will be Boys&quot; sentiment that STILL PERMEATES OUR CULTURE. Why? WHY??

OK, sorry. Had a bad afternoon, and a whole bunch of good wine, and now I&#039;m leaving a comment so long it&#039;s practically a blog post.

Lordy. Good post. Dug it. Hang in.

M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There must be something in the air. Even in little ol&#8217; Wisconsin today, I was made to feel exactly the same way: basically, that women have no business being alone in public, or the big bad men will get them and take them away. WTF?? I can&#8217;t imagine anything more damaging than the fucking &#8220;Boys will be Boys&#8221; sentiment that STILL PERMEATES OUR CULTURE. Why? WHY??</p>
<p>OK, sorry. Had a bad afternoon, and a whole bunch of good wine, and now I&#8217;m leaving a comment so long it&#8217;s practically a blog post.</p>
<p>Lordy. Good post. Dug it. Hang in.</p>
<p>M</p>
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		<title>By: Suebob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suebob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, you beetches iz uptight.

(I blogged about this too, and got the funniest anonymous comment).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, you beetches iz uptight.</p>
<p>(I blogged about this too, and got the funniest anonymous comment).</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What amazed me was their apparent complete lack of concern over this in their official statements about it.  

Their plan for dealing with it is arresting the women who comply but they can&#039;t do anything about the guys chanting?  

I hate lawsuits.  I especially hate class action lawsuits in most cases.  But I&#039;d love to see how fast they would change their tune if they, the NFL, and the team were all hit with a class action suit for harrassment (if that&#039;s even possible).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What amazed me was their apparent complete lack of concern over this in their official statements about it.  </p>
<p>Their plan for dealing with it is arresting the women who comply but they can&#8217;t do anything about the guys chanting?  </p>
<p>I hate lawsuits.  I especially hate class action lawsuits in most cases.  But I&#8217;d love to see how fast they would change their tune if they, the NFL, and the team were all hit with a class action suit for harrassment (if that&#8217;s even possible).</p>
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		<title>By: Not Fainthearted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Fainthearted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, I haven&#039;t been paying too much attention to sports lately. So I was unaware of this. It is undoubtedly the most outrageous thing I&#039;ve hear of! 

And I just stopped by to say &quot;thanks!&quot; for your writing (here and that other place, too!) and it&#039;s been great to &#039;meet&#039; you this year.

And also, I hope you and the family had an awesome Thanksgiving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, I haven&#8217;t been paying too much attention to sports lately. So I was unaware of this. It is undoubtedly the most outrageous thing I&#8217;ve hear of! </p>
<p>And I just stopped by to say &#8220;thanks!&#8221; for your writing (here and that other place, too!) and it&#8217;s been great to &#8216;meet&#8217; you this year.</p>
<p>And also, I hope you and the family had an awesome Thanksgiving.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilacspecs</title>
		<link>http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/11/22/thankful-i-am-not-a-jets-fan-this-thanksgiving/comment-page-1/#comment-58363</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilacspecs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Yorkers are pigs.  Many men are pigs as well, especially American men, ESPECIALLY American men in New York.  You couldn&#039;t pay me to live there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Yorkers are pigs.  Many men are pigs as well, especially American men, ESPECIALLY American men in New York.  You couldn&#8217;t pay me to live there.</p>
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