Comments on: Mom Gone Mad http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:38:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Mom101 http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58794 Mom101 Sat, 05 Jan 2008 04:13:28 +0000 http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58794 I have to say, while I agree with you in some ways, I think the show should be pulled and here's why: There's this whole morals clause thingamabobby that I'm sure you know about. It's particularly pertinent with regards to a relatively wholesome (ish) child-focused network and they can't just have their teenage stars getting pregnant with their (illegal) old boyfriends out of wedlock. Reminder: my kids are technical bastards. So I got no beef with the no marriage thing. It's not just about the program here. If the program was on in a vacuum, maybe. But with all of the marketing associated with programming that changes - tv appearances, action figures, bad CD single releases, cover of Teen Beat. Or OK Magazine, as I hear the elder Mrs. Spears just negotiated a fancy 1mm deal for the rights to her daughter's story. Klassy! You know I'm a crazy raging liberal and I'm all for the sex ed on the ABC afterschool special or whatever. But I think it compromises Nickelodeon's carefully constructed brand image which they have the right to protect. I'm an insatiable slut too, btw. I have to say, while I agree with you in some ways, I think the show should be pulled and here’s why: There’s this whole morals clause thingamabobby that I’m sure you know about. It’s particularly pertinent with regards to a relatively wholesome (ish) child-focused network and they can’t just have their teenage stars getting pregnant with their (illegal) old boyfriends out of wedlock.

Reminder: my kids are technical bastards. So I got no beef with the no marriage thing.

It’s not just about the program here. If the program was on in a vacuum, maybe. But with all of the marketing associated with programming that changes - tv appearances, action figures, bad CD single releases, cover of Teen Beat. Or OK Magazine, as I hear the elder Mrs. Spears just negotiated a fancy 1mm deal for the rights to her daughter’s story. Klassy!

You know I’m a crazy raging liberal and I’m all for the sex ed on the ABC afterschool special or whatever. But I think it compromises Nickelodeon’s carefully constructed brand image which they have the right to protect.

I’m an insatiable slut too, btw.

]]> By: Summer http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58750 Summer Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:32:25 +0000 http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58750 And this is why we only watch PBS. Just sayin'. Personally, I agree with DGM about profitting off of this young girl's sexuality and pregnancy. However, I don't see that as reason to pull her previous taped show off the air. There are a number of acters and actresses who I couldn't let within 5 miles of my kids, but they have cute movies where their real life actions do not bleed through. I think if this opens the doors of communcation that might have previously ben closed, then A-MEN! The more education and communication we have going on the less pregnant 16 year olds there will be. And trust me, anyone who has seen big sis in the news isn't that interested in following a Spears. And this is why we only watch PBS. Just sayin’.

Personally, I agree with DGM about profitting off of this young girl’s sexuality and pregnancy. However, I don’t see that as reason to pull her previous taped show off the air. There are a number of acters and actresses who I couldn’t let within 5 miles of my kids, but they have cute movies where their real life actions do not bleed through. I think if this opens the doors of communcation that might have previously ben closed, then A-MEN! The more education and communication we have going on the less pregnant 16 year olds there will be. And trust me, anyone who has seen big sis in the news isn’t that interested in following a Spears.

]]> By: sk-rt.com http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58746 sk-rt.com Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:05:41 +0000 http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58746 <strong>Mom Gone Mad...</strong> Queen of Spain offers a nice backlash to Dad Gone Mad's position that Zoey 101 should be canceled because of Jamie Lynn Spears pregnancy.... Mom Gone Mad…

Queen of Spain offers a nice backlash to Dad Gone Mad’s position that Zoey 101 should be canceled because of Jamie Lynn Spears pregnancy….

]]> By: Shannon, PHAT Mommy http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58745 Shannon, PHAT Mommy Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:51:43 +0000 http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58745 DGM writes: "Is it so wrong to have standards?" No. But it IS wrong to impose YOUR standards on others. I have no problem at all with TV or marketing. If I don't like something, I TURN IT OFF. If ENOUGH people turned it off, the network would have no ad sales and the show would be off the air. Period. DGM writes: “Is it so wrong to have standards?”

No. But it IS wrong to impose YOUR standards on others. I have no problem at all with TV or marketing. If I don’t like something, I TURN IT OFF. If ENOUGH people turned it off, the network would have no ad sales and the show would be off the air. Period.

]]> By: Shash http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58738 Shash Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:17:36 +0000 http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58738 Whoops! My bad. I had thought I saw a special Linda Ellerbee did years ago on Nick and they were planning to use that, with updated information. My mistake. Sorry. Whoops! My bad. I had thought I saw a special Linda Ellerbee did years ago on Nick and they were planning to use that, with updated information.

My mistake. Sorry.

]]> By: crunchy carpets http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58735 crunchy carpets Sun, 30 Dec 2007 02:58:51 +0000 http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58735 I love this...really I do. The schizoid mentality wrought by the puritanical undercurrent of mainstream American clashing with the sex sells everything of the worship of the celeboid..... This is what happens. We worship tv and gossip....we drool over scandal and the moronic world of reality tv and the constant barrage of sex sex sex and then everyone gets 'shocked' that a teen on tv got pregnant and has this HUGE discussion about what to do? Nothing....what did we expect? Did we think that she was like her Nick character? Did the powers that be at Nick think she was all clean and shiny? No..they hired her because she was a Spears. I think they are probably disappointed that getting knocked up was it...where is the sex videos on You Tube? Do we think anything on Nick is a safe and good show for our kids.....god, I hope not. Are we hypocrites for getting into a snit about all this...yes. "Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!'" This is the age of commercialism and exploitation.....this is it. I love this…really I do.

The schizoid mentality wrought by the puritanical undercurrent of mainstream American clashing with the sex sells everything of the worship of the celeboid…..

This is what happens.

We worship tv and gossip….we drool over scandal and the moronic world of reality tv and the constant barrage of sex sex sex and then everyone gets ’shocked’ that a teen on tv got pregnant and has this HUGE discussion about what to do?

Nothing….what did we expect? Did we think that she was like her Nick character? Did the powers that be at Nick think she was all clean and shiny? No..they hired her because she was a Spears. I think they are probably disappointed that getting knocked up was it…where is the sex videos on You Tube?

Do we think anything on Nick is a safe
and good show for our kids…..god, I hope not.

Are we hypocrites for getting into a snit about all this…yes.

“Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!’”

This is the age of commercialism and exploitation…..this is it.

]]> By: Dorothy Stahlnecker http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58734 Dorothy Stahlnecker Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:23:20 +0000 http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58734 It's the best example of life getting in the way of life. Here is a perfect opportunity to deal with it while teaching our kids it can and will happen way to young. You said most of what I agree to, once again...your the best.... You may be younger then this 61 year old grandmother however, you seem to have your shit in order... My best, Dorothy from grammology remember to call gram http://grammology.com It’s the best example of life getting in the way of life. Here is a perfect opportunity to deal with it while teaching our kids it can and will happen way to young. You said most of what I agree to, once again…your the best….

You may be younger then this 61 year old grandmother however, you seem to have your shit in order…
My best,

Dorothy from grammology
remember to call gram
http://grammology.com

]]> By: Dad Gone Mad http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58731 Dad Gone Mad Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:28:00 +0000 http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58731 "I for one am glad that this one girls mistake has gotten so many parents over there off of their lazy asses and motivated them to actually be a responsible parent and monitor/control what their children are being shown and taught on TV. Unfortunately, I think it’s all a bunch of grandstanding and it just means a different TV channel is going to be the new surrogate parrent." Total fucking bullshit. Active, responsible parenting and the provision of access to television are not mutually exclusive. Is it so wrong to have standards? Or is wanting to live in a society that first does no harm also "self-righteous, sanctimonious, and reactionary mutual masturbation" in your stupid-ass book, too? I'm trying hard to see the opposing side of this issue, but the lot of you seem inclined to belittle those who disagree with you. “I for one am glad that this one girls mistake has gotten so many parents over there off of their lazy asses and motivated them to actually be a responsible parent and monitor/control what their children are being shown and taught on TV. Unfortunately, I think it’s all a bunch of grandstanding and it just means a different TV channel is going to be the new surrogate parrent.”

Total fucking bullshit. Active, responsible parenting and the provision of access to television are not mutually exclusive. Is it so wrong to have standards? Or is wanting to live in a society that first does no harm also “self-righteous, sanctimonious, and reactionary mutual masturbation” in your stupid-ass book, too?

I’m trying hard to see the opposing side of this issue, but the lot of you seem inclined to belittle those who disagree with you.

]]> By: cole http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58726 cole Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:23:36 +0000 http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58726 Excuse me, but aren't you all talking about TV? TV doesn't have any social obligation to the world. TV doesn't have some sort of moral responsiblity to educate our children or provide the services that they say they do. It is TV. Its job is to make money and if you don't like what you are watching turn it the fuck off. Why are preschoolers watching so much fucking TV already? Why is this even an issue. It is not the responsibility of TV to provide some sort of moral example of life for a teenage girl. IT is make believe. All made up. Not real in any way shape or form. Last I knew, news organizations were the only ones with some sort of ethical responsibility to the public and they fail at that pretty often. Why are you not more upset by that example than of some made up TV show for teens? http://www.lyricsfreak.com/t/tool/hooker+with+a+penis_20139387.html Excuse me, but aren’t you all talking about TV? TV doesn’t have any social obligation to the world. TV doesn’t have some sort of moral responsiblity to educate our children or provide the services that they say they do. It is TV. Its job is to make money and if you don’t like what you are watching turn it the fuck off. Why are preschoolers watching so much fucking TV already? Why is this even an issue. It is not the responsibility of TV to provide some sort of moral example of life for a teenage girl. IT is make believe. All made up. Not real in any way shape or form. Last I knew, news organizations were the only ones with some sort of ethical responsibility to the public and they fail at that pretty often. Why are you not more upset by that example than of some made up TV show for teens?
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/t/tool/hooker+with+a+penis_20139387.html

]]> By: Stephanie http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58723 Stephanie Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:04:28 +0000 http://queenofspainblog.com/2007/12/26/mom-gone-mad/#comment-58723 I found your comment on DGM site about this whole thing and could not agree with you more! Yes, I was saddened that JLS totally blew the *nice girl* image that her sister broke years ago, but my kids, who are 5, 8 and 12 still enjoy the show. They aren't just plunked down in front of it though. We watch it as a family. Just like Zach and Cody, just like Raven, Cory in the House and Hannah Montana. If any storylines come up that they have questions about, we are there to answer them. Granted, it gets tiring watching the SAME episodes over and over again, but still. The networks don't need to be parenting the children, the parents do! But, I guess that just makes me weird. ;o) I found your comment on DGM site about this whole thing and could not agree with you more! Yes, I was saddened that JLS totally blew the *nice girl* image that her sister broke years ago, but my kids, who are 5, 8 and 12 still enjoy the show. They aren’t just plunked down in front of it though. We watch it as a family. Just like Zach and Cody, just like Raven, Cory in the House and Hannah Montana. If any storylines come up that they have questions about, we are there to answer them. Granted, it gets tiring watching the SAME episodes over and over again, but still.
The networks don’t need to be parenting the children, the parents do! But, I guess that just makes me weird. ;o)

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