Truth time.
You are not over it.
I am not over it.
There are threats to vote McCain.
There are snarks about older white women.
There are accusations of it being my (and other women who voted Obama) fault Clinton didn’t break that ‘ultimate glass ceiling.’
There are sore winners, sore losers, and even discussion of what our daughters will take away from this, other than our inability to STOP fighting.
So I say, time to get it out all out there. Time to lay it all on the table and say every nasty thing, or upsetting thing, or even offensive thing you need to say. Time to fight it out with that Obama supporter. Time to fight it out with that Clinton backer.
Time to do what we need to do in order to move on.
It’s time to stop pitting women against women.
After we have our virtual pillow fight, I’m not talking about it anymore.
Unless of course, Clinton fucks up again (see, see why I need to do this? I have issues! ISSUES!)
7pm Pacific. We’ll start off on Stickam so as many people as possible get a chance to yell and scream and cry.
and then with any luck…by the wee hours of the morning, we’ll be back to feeling ya-ya.
So we’re having it out in this virtual Red Tent to emerge stronger. And also to learn why each side is so entrenched so we can understand and come together.
I hope that this helps. As there is nothing worse than seeing a party divided amongst itself. Go do it…and I will be watching to see you unite these women.
I’m going to try to be there, Erin…not only because I love (virtually) hangin’ out with you, but also because I just don’t get it.
I want to understand…but for me this has never been about male/female, black/white, old/young, etc. It’s been about policies and issues.
Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE the idea of a female president. Or an African American. Or a brave war hero.
But when I am in the poll booth, those things don’t even factor into my decision.
Looking forward to listening tonight. I’m refraining from discussing anymore for my own sanity. Um, at least until BlogHer where I’m on a panel to discuss race and gender (not the campaign but some of the issues that have surfaced). I’m trying to move past my own feelings of hurt and anger when I read things from women whom I respect and admire which I perceive as insulting and attacking me. I wanna sing Kumbaya!
But before then, perhaps some Clinton supporters can stop by my blog and help me grok this reaction http://consumerpop.typepad.com/popconsumer/2008/06/clinton-supporters—i-need-your-help.html
This is a great idea.
All this party dis-unity (is that a word?) is really bumming me out. If the Dems can’t keep it together, we’re going to be stuck with another four years of the same old, same old. Time to suke it out, have a group hug, and get over it!
Also, kudos for the Red Tent reference. 😀
I almost wish I could make this. Sounds like good fun…loosely defining fun there.
Well, what I saw wrong with the Clinton issue was the love affair that campaign had with “labels”. Women, Jews, black, white, hispanic, blue collar, elites, blah, blah, blah. In the end, it bit them in the arse.
Obama is a melting pot and that’s what America is. Time to move on and forward together!
I should be there. And with the webcam Maria so kindly sent to me I can actually discuss with you the issues. IF I CAN get it to work correctly. 😉 See you tonight.
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Whether you’re over it or not, threatening to vote McCain is still just wrong. Sheesh, people.
And I’m always up for winning free stuff. 🙂
I’m on the show. Men need to moisturize too!
Jeremy
I though long and hard about who to support through the primaries. Yes I would love to see a woman in the White House but it came down to deciding who I thought would be the best to run the country. Does that make me a traitor? No, It makes me a true feminist because I’m not going to allow gender or race enter into my decision. I have has quite a few conversations with the women in my family about this. Hillary really needed to move beyond the gender issue and start really speaking about how she was going to change things.
I found the word divisive to describe the Clinton campaign appropriately.
Proof of Hillary Clinton’s divisiveness: we’re still talking about her days (months, even) after she lost the nomination.
We need to pivot, and also the pundits need to quit speculating about her as VP. urk.
FYI – I’d much rather have the Girlz Nite Out package over the other gift pack.
Mommy needs way more than coffee. How about that Girlz Nite Out package. You know you want me happy at BlogHer. 😉
And you got me on webcam for the first time. I am no longer a virgin.
I’d like to win the moisturizers – wouldn’t have much use for the Girlz Nite Out stuff.
Nice chat, what I heard of it. It amazes me that people have such a poor understanding of feminism.
I want so desperately to put all this behind me–to forget these last few months of attacks that felt very personal to me–but I can’t yet. Clinton supporters keep talking about taking time to mourn their loss, but I need time before I can welcome them to the Obama tent. Hopefully, it won’t take much longer.
Anyway, I’m in for the Silver Bullet. A single lady’s gotta live.
I have a feeling that OB & HRC are a lot more crafty in weighting their options on how they are going to cut this thing up pending a win. If there’s something gain then HRC is open.
Obama is killing it with his internet game. McCain needs to get on his level quick if he’s gonna battle Obama there.
McCain is getting a lot of support from established channels that want to see things stay business as usual.
Obama will be ok.
About the show: you guys need to move to a skype format with one person on cam. The lag makes things hard to follow. Skype requires less bandwidth. Just my 2cents…
PS: send me lubricants 😛
rockin discussion.
Natthedem and Jenn Satterwhite have won the GirlzNiteOut packs and Morgain won the Theraplex!
amen. my friend rebecca was accused of being anti-feminist by an ex-girlfriend for being an obama supporter. yeah it’s hollywood. but whatever it pisses me the hell off. i voted for obama because of that speech in 2004 call me naive but i did and i believe in him. yeah the crap they dished about hillary in the media was offensive and wrong–she reminds men of their nagging wives? come ON. but wrong as that was it didn’t mean i had an obligation to vote for her.
so yeah. everybody get together try to love one another right now.